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Supervision: Monday 16th June 2008; 10:30

  1. The purpose: of the supervision was to discuss an essay1 on "Fine (Kit) - A Counter-Example To Locke's Thesis".
  2. I’m writing up this note over 6 weeks after the supervision, and I’ve forgotten the discussion. However, I’ve got Jen’s partly legible marginal annotations, together with a few of my own. Lest these get lost, I have repeated them in the previous version of this note (follow the links below). In this file-note I expand on the comments in a manner that may or may not reflect the actual discussion, but which at least reconsiders the topics discussed.
  3. See the previous version of this note for a couple of administrative matters. Comments on the text follow.
  4. Bullet 4: “Won’t be criterial: same matter, different marks, different marks, different letter”.
  5. Bullet 9: Illegible objection – “But it ?? these ??”. My marginal annotations have “monists don’t believe in sorts”.
  6. Bullet 13 (Coincidence): “How does this possibility bear on the actual example”?
  7. Bullet 13 (Distinctness): “But given what the example is intended to show, the only relevant (false) identity statements concern letters”. Also, general query on the last sentence. I have an annotation “closeness of relation, not degree of distinctness”.
  8. Bullet 13 (Physical Things): “Abstract”. My annotation says “abstract object”.
  9. Bullet 14: “His or your ‘but’?” (“But, if asked of a computer image”). Comment at the end of the bullet: “depends!”
  10. Bullet 16: “What does this mean?” – against the “phase sortal” notion – underlined.
  11. Bullet 17: “Do the letters require this vocabulary and grammar to be the letters they are?” Double line next to the last sentence.
  12. Bullet 18: “Compare: a letter I wrote using English was actually in F
    French”.
  13. Bullet 19: “Reference to what is said of author’s intentions”. I have a comment “no hope”.
  14. Bullet 20 (Bullet 1): My statement ‘more important than’ is underlined with a marginal exclamation mark and the comment “irreproducibility of persons”.
  15. Bullet 20 (Bullet 3): I have marginal annotations ‘Intensional types’; ‘Doesn’t work for biological kinds’; ‘3D photocopy’.
  16. Bullet 20 (Bullet 4): “Could there be (necessary) collocation of a person and her body. (While one doesn’t need legs. to Locke to demonstrate)? I have a marginal annotation – ‘X (ie. No!) – did consider it’.
  17. Bullet 21 (Bullet 1): My “Mass term notions go wrong” underlined. Jen’s “Explain” (crossed out).
  18. Bullet 21 (Bullet 2): Against last full line - “Why? Each letter weighs the same as the other”.
  19. Bullet 21 (Bullet 3): First few words underlined, with the comment “Why”.
Next Supervision: None. I am now intermitting the course, and intend to re-apply for a full-time place in two academic years’ time.



Previous Version of this Note:

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29/07/2008 11:22:34 3695 Jen_080616



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Fine - A Counter-Example to Locke's Thesis        

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Fine (Kit) A Counter-Example To Locke's Thesis Paper High Quality Abstract   Yes



References & Reading List

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Fine (Kit) A Counter-Example To Locke's Thesis Paper - Cited High Quality Abstract Monist, Jul2000, Vol. 83 Issue 3, p357, 5p Yes
Fine (Kit) A Counter-Example To Locke's Thesis Paper - Referencing High Quality Abstract Monist, Jul2000, Vol. 83 Issue 3, p357, 5p Yes



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