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Personal Identity
Out of Body Experiences
(Text as at 06/07/2023 00:43:12)
Plug Note1
- Thesis Text:
- As is the case with Near Death Experiences2, which sometimes include them, OBEs offer various challenges to physicalist3 accounts of the mind4, and to animalist5 accounts of what we are6.
- OBEs may or may not be a concomitant of an NDE. They seem sometimes to occur during other crisis times of illness.
- An example – see "BBC, Burgess (Gary) - Why do we know so little about ME?" – was given in March 2018 by a reporter suffering from Myalgic Encephalomyelitis, also known as ME, or Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS). He stated quite casually, without any self-consciousness about the prima facie absurdity of his account – “In the middle of a piece about maternity and paternity benefits, during the 6pm news programme, I had the most wonderful sensation. I left my body, was suddenly up in the studio ceiling, and was looking down on myself, the presenters, and all of the camera crew. I was having an out-of-body experience.”
- The question is – of course – whether these experiences are of anything outside the mind7. Do they really prove that something like a soul8 can wander out of the body9?
- A difficult situation to “explain away” is where the NDE-experiencer claims – as in the example above – to see something (while having an Out of Body Experience) they could not have seen under normal circumstances. The difficulty with evaluating such reports is that they are either vague and unsurprising, or anecdotal and hard to verify – so the presumption is that they aren’t veridical.
- There’s a famous “shoe” case where no follow-up seems to have been possible. There’s a (naturally sceptical) page on Infidels.org ("Augustine (Keith) - Hallucinatory Near-Death Experiences") which references this “shoe” case amongst others.
- The case of our reporter is surprisingly off-hand for such a surprising claim. "Blackmore (Susan) - Beyond the Body" asserts that 10% of people claim to have had OBEs. Maybe most also believe in immaterial souls10, and think that most other people do likewise. So, they may claim more than they strictly observed as a way of making their experience seem more important than those of rival accounts. Rather than thinking they are distorting the evidence-base for this phenomenon, they may simply take it as a fact, and want to share in the glamour associated with having experienced it. Much like alien abduction.
References
- Relevant Works cited above:
- "Augustine (Keith) - Hallucinatory Near-Death Experiences", 2003 (Updated 2008), External Link, Internal PDF Link, Read = 6%
- "BBC, Burgess (Gary) - Why do we know so little about ME?", 2018, External Link, Read
- "Blackmore (Susan) - Beyond the Body", 1992, Book
- For a Page of Links11 to this Note, Click here. This required some manipulation12.
- Works on this topic that I’ve actually read13, include the following:-
- Aeon:
- "Emslie (Karen) - Hallucinogenic nights", 2014, Annotations, No Abstract, External Link, Internal PDF Link, Footnote14
- General:
- "Almeder (Robert) - Death and Personal Survival: Evidence for Life After Death - Preface", 1992
- "BBC, Burgess (Gary) - Why do we know so little about ME?", 2018, External Link
- "Buzzi (Giorgio) - Correspondence: Near-Death Experiences", 2002
- "Edwards (Paul) - The Astral Body", 2002
- "Fenwick (Peter) & Fenwick (Elizabeth) - The Truth in the Light: An Investigation of Over 300 Near-Death Experiences", 1995, Book
- "Godelek (Kamuran) - Review of Thomas Metzinger's 'The Ego Tunnel: The Science of the Mind and the Myth of the Self'", 2009, External Link
- "Thomas (Janice L.) - Other arguments for dualism", 2000
- A further reading list might start with:-
- General:
- "Almeder (Robert) - Death and Personal Survival: Evidence for Life After Death", 1992, Book, Read = 2%
- "Almeder (Robert) - Out-of-Body Experiences", 1992
- "Augustine (Keith) - Hallucinatory Near-Death Experiences", 2003 (Updated 2008), External Link, Internal PDF Link, Read = 6%
- "Augustine (Keith) - Near-Death Experiences are Hallucinations", 2015
- "Blackmore (Susan) - Beyond the Body", 1992, Book, Footnote15
- "Blackmore (Susan) - Out-of-Body Experiences are not Evidence for Survival", 2015
- "Blackmore (Susan) - The Implausibility of Astral Bodies and Astral Worlds", 2015
- "Chopra (Deepak) & Hameroff (Stuart) - Can science explain the soul?", 2010, External Link, Read = 150%
- "Dilley (Frank B.) - Review of Robert Almeder 'Death and Personal Survival: The Evidence for Life after Death'", 1995, Internal PDF Link
- "Ehrsson (H. Henrik) - The Experimental Induction of Out-of-Body Experiences", 2007, External Link, Internal PDF Link
- "Hick (John) - Death and Eternal Life", 1996, Read = 2%
- "McGinn (Colin) - Minds & Bodies: Philosophers and Their Ideas", 1997, Book
- "Metzinger (Thomas) - Being No One: Neurophenomenological Case Studies II", 2004
- "Metzinger (Thomas) - The Ego Tunnel: The Science of the Mind and the Myth of the Self", 2009, Read = 1%
- "Moravec (Hans) - Pigs in Cyberspace", 2013
- "Morse (Melvin) - Life After Life: Preface", 2001, Read = 42%
- "Radden (Jennifer) - The Divided Minds of Mental Disorder", 1996
- "Rawlings (Maurice S.) - To Hell and Back: Life after Death - Startling New Evidence", 1993, Book, Write-Up Note16, Read = 1%
- "Talbot (Michael) - The Holographic Universe", 1992, Book, Read = 1%
- For a list of Works that have been considered, but have missed the cut for inclusion in this Section of my Thesis, see the following:-
- Read: No items to list.
- Further Reading: No items to list.
- This is mostly a place-holder17.
In-Page Footnotes:
Footnote 12:
- There are far too many false-positives for “OBE”, though fewer for “OBEs”, so I ran an updating run for the latter, then excluded them, but excluded the former altogether.
- Might be worth re-running once I’ve made a software development to exclude “usual suspect” false-positives automatically.
Footnote 14:
- This paper is about the author’s experience of sleep paralysis, but includes discussion of OBEs.
Footnote 15:
- This book – though sceptical – is probably the best starting point.
Table of the Previous 6 Versions of this Note:
Summary of Notes Referenced by This Note
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Summary of Notes Citing This Note
| Aeon Papers - Summary Document: 2017-2018 |
Near Death Experiences, 2 |
PID Note, Book & Paper Usage, 2, 3 |
Status: Personal Identity (2026 - March) |
Thesis - Chapter 11 (Resurrection), 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 |
| Thesis - Chapter 12 (Conclusion) |
Thesis - Current Stance |
Thesis - Personal Identity, 2, 3, 4, 5 |
Website Generator Documentation - Functors, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 |
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Authors, Books & Papers Citing this Note
| Author |
Title |
Medium |
Extra Links |
Read? |
| Aeon |
Video - What science tells us about the afterlife |
Paper  |
|
Yes |
| Almeder (Robert) |
Death and Personal Survival: Evidence for Life After Death |
Book  |
|
|
| Almeder (Robert) |
Death and Personal Survival: Evidence for Life After Death - Preface |
Paper  |
2 |
Yes |
| Augustine (Keith) |
Hallucinatory Near-Death Experiences |
Paper  |
2, 3 |
|
| Augustine (Keith) |
Near-Death Experiences are Hallucinations |
Paper  |
|
|
| BBC, Burgess (Gary) |
Why do we know so little about ME? |
Paper  |
2, 3 |
Yes |
| Blackmore (Susan) |
Dying to Live: Near-Death Experiences |
Book  |
|
|
| Blackmore (Susan) |
Out-of-Body Experiences are not Evidence for Survival |
Paper  |
2 |
|
| Blackmore (Susan) |
The Implausibility of Astral Bodies and Astral Worlds |
Paper  |
|
|
| Buzzi (Giorgio) |
Correspondence: Near-Death Experiences |
Paper  |
2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 |
Yes |
| Chopra (Deepak) & Hameroff (Stuart) |
Can science explain the soul? |
Paper  |
2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 |
|
| Dilley (Frank B.) |
Review of Robert Almeder 'Death and Personal Survival: The Evidence for Life after Death' |
Paper  |
|
|
| Edwards (Paul) |
The Astral Body |
Paper  |
|
Yes |
| Emslie (Karen) |
Hallucinogenic nights |
Paper  |
|
Yes |
| Fenwick (Peter) & Fenwick (Elizabeth) |
The Truth in the Light: An Investigation of Over 300 Near-Death Experiences |
Paper  |
|
Yes |
| Fenwick (Peter) & Fenwick (Elizabeth) |
The Truth in the Light: An Investigation of Over 300 Near-Death Experiences |
Book  |
2 |
Yes |
| Godelek (Kamuran) |
Review of Thomas Metzinger's 'The Ego Tunnel: The Science of the Mind and the Myth of the Self' |
Paper  |
|
Yes |
| Hick (John) |
Death and Eternal Life |
Paper  |
|
|
| McGinn (Colin) |
Minds & Bodies: Philosophers and Their Ideas |
Book  |
|
|
| Metzinger (Thomas) |
Being No One: Neurophenomenological Case Studies II |
Paper  |
|
|
| Metzinger (Thomas) |
The Ego Tunnel: The Science of the Mind and the Myth of the Self |
Book  |
|
|
| Metzinger (Thomas) |
The Ego Tunnel: The Science of the Mind and the Myth of the Self |
Paper  |
|
|
| Moody (Raymond A.) |
Life After Life: Main Text |
Paper  |
|
|
| Moravec (Hans) |
Pigs in Cyberspace |
Paper  |
|
|
| Morse (Melvin) |
Life After Life: Preface |
Paper  |
|
|
| Moshakis (Alex) |
What do near-death experiences mean, and why do they fascinate us? |
Paper  |
|
Yes |
| Radden (Jennifer) |
The Divided Minds of Mental Disorder |
Paper  |
|
|
| Rawlings (Maurice S.) |
To Hell and Back: Life after Death - Startling New Evidence |
Paper  |
|
|
| Rawlings (Maurice S.) |
To Hell and Back: Life after Death - Startling New Evidence |
Book  |
2, 3 |
|
| Talbot (Michael) |
The Holographic Universe |
Book  |
|
|
| Thomas (Janice L.) |
Other arguments for dualism |
Paper  |
2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19 |
Yes |
| Todman (Theo) |
Thesis - Chapter 11 (Resurrection) |
Paper  |
2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 |
Yes |
| Todman (Theo) |
Thesis - Chapter 12 (Conclusion) |
Paper  |
|
Yes |
| Todman (Theo) |
Thesis - Current Position |
Paper  |
|
Yes |
| Todman (Theo) |
Thesis - Near Death Experiences |
Paper  |
2 |
Yes |
| Todman (Theo) |
Thesis - Personal Identity |
Paper  |
2, 3, 4, 5 |
Yes |
References & Reading List
| Author |
Title |
Medium |
Source |
Read? |
| Almeder (Robert) |
Death and Personal Survival: Evidence for Life After Death |
Book - Cited  |
Almeder (Robert) - Death and Personal Survival: Evidence for Life After Death |
2% |
| Almeder (Robert) |
Death and Personal Survival: Evidence for Life After Death - Preface |
Paper - Cited  |
Almeder (Robert) - Death and Personal Survival: Evidence for Life After Death |
Yes |
| Almeder (Robert) |
Out-of-Body Experiences |
Paper - Cited  |
Almeder (Robert) - Death and Personal Survival: Evidence for Life After Death, Chapter 4 |
No |
| Augustine (Keith) |
Hallucinatory Near-Death Experiences |
Paper - Cited  |
Infidels Website |
6% |
| BBC, Burgess (Gary) |
Why do we know so little about ME? |
Paper - Cited  |
BBC Radio 5 Website/Articles; 2018; Extract taken 03 May 2023 |
Yes |
| Blackmore (Susan) |
Beyond the Body |
Book - Cited  |
Blackmore (Susan) - Beyond the Body |
No |
| Blackmore (Susan) |
Out-of-Body Experiences are not Evidence for Survival |
Paper - By Subtopic  |
Martin & Augustine - The Myth of an Afterlife, Part 4, Chapter 24 |
No |
| Buzzi (Giorgio) |
Correspondence: Near-Death Experiences |
Paper - Cited  |
Lancet. Vol. 359, Issue 9323 (June 15, 2002): 2116-2117 |
Yes |
| Edwards (Paul) |
Reincarnation: A Critical Examination |
Book - Cited (via Paper Cited)  |
Bibliographical details to be supplied |
Yes |
| Edwards (Paul) |
The Astral Body |
Paper - Cited  |
Edwards - Reincarnation: A Critical Examination, 2002, Chapter 9 |
Yes |
| Ehrsson (H. Henrik) |
The Experimental Induction of Out-of-Body Experiences |
Paper - By Subtopic  |
Science 24 Aug 2007: Vol. 317, Issue 5841, pp. 1048 |
No |
| Emslie (Karen) |
Hallucinogenic nights |
Paper - Cited |
Aeon, 27 June, 2014 |
Yes |
| Fenwick (Peter) & Fenwick (Elizabeth) |
The Truth in the Light: An Investigation of Over 300 Near-Death Experiences |
Book - Cited  |
Fenwick (Peter) & Fenwick (Elizabeth) - The Truth in the Light: An Investigation of Over 300 Near-Death Experiences |
Yes |
| Hains (Brigid) & Hains (Paul) |
Aeon: C-F |
Book - Cited (via Paper Cited)  |
Bibliographical details to be supplied |
51% |
| Hains (Brigid) & Hains (Paul) |
Aeon: L-P |
Book - Referencing (via Paper Referencing)  |
Bibliographical details to be supplied |
33% |
| Martin (L. Michael) & Augustine (Keith) |
The Myth of an Afterlife: The Case against Life After Death |
Book - By Subtopic (via Paper By Subtopic)  |
Martin (L. Michael) & Augustine (Keith) - The Myth of an Afterlife: The Case against Life After Death |
15% |
| McGinn (Colin) |
Minds & Bodies: Philosophers and Their Ideas |
Book - Cited  |
McGinn (Colin) - Minds & Bodies: Philosophers and Their Ideas |
No |
| Moshakis (Alex) |
What do near-death experiences mean, and why do they fascinate us? |
Paper - Referencing  |
Guardian On-Line, 7 March 2021 |
Yes |
| Todman (Theo) |
Thesis - Out of Body Experiences |
Paper - By Subtopic  |
|
Yes |
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