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Thesis - Chapter 05 (Persistence and Time)

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Abstract

    A number of thought experiments that feature in Chapter 10 seem to fail if perdurantism is true (because the reduplication objections fail). Depending on whether any of these are critical to my arguments, I may need to consider the impact of perdurantism. But this complex area may be a step too far within a fairly limited word-count. I’m also unsure whether it should feature before or after the account of Thought Experiments.



Research Methodology


Chapter Introduction
  1. Any discussion of identity over time – of anything – needs to have some discussion of just what it is for something to persist, and what we take time to be.
  2. Additionally, as noted in the abstract, depending on our approach to time and persistence, some of the troubling thought experiments that worry us about the persistence of human persons are resolved, though we get nothing for nothing. As is usual in philosophy, a gain here is compensated for by a loss somewhere else. We need to determine these losses, and agree that they are “worth it”.
  3. Further text to be supplied.



Main Text
  1. To be supplied.



Links to Books / Papers to be Addressed3
  1. In this Chapter I will consider the following papers or book chapters (together with some others referenced by these). There are doubtless many more that are relevant and which will be addressed in the course of the thesis, but these are probably sufficient to get us going.
  2. The references are segregated by sub-topic, as below, but there is much overlap.
  3. Time:
  4. Persistence:
  5. Survival5:
  6. Endurantism:
  7. Perdurantism:
  8. Exdurantism:
  9. Many aspects of these papers will need to be either ignored or reserved for other chapters.
  10. The motivation for these works is as follows:-
    • To be supplied.



The Cut
  1. There had already been a lot of cutting in the various selections of the original reading list – the reading lists attached to the Notes run on and on – and these items just represent the works in my possession (though I have sought out all that I’ve heard of that look relevant).
  2. However, the items in the lists following were given some attention, and have been culled – at least temporarily – from the lists above, where they originally appeared. I’ve not always given a reason as I’ve not studied them sufficiently closely. But, you have to draw a line somewhere.
  3. I’m well aware that the cut has not been sufficiently rigorous. Further items beyond the items below are likely to be culled when I come to process them.



Links to Notes
  1. Time11,
  2. Persistence12,
  3. Persistence_Criteria13,
  4. Survival14,
  5. Endurantism15,
  6. Perdurantism16,
  7. Exdurantism17.



Final Remarks
  1. This is work-in-progress18.



In-Page Footnotes

Footnote 3: Footnote 4: This might also be useful for perdurantism, or for the logic of identity.

Footnote 5: Footnote 6: This looks like an important paper, which rejects the “proofs” of 4D based on the “coincidence” TEs.

Footnote 7: Another important-looking paper, also against perdurantism, along similar lines to the above.

Footnote 8: Oderberg seems to be arguing that Perdurantism is an unwanted consequence of a common-sense notion of persistence.

Footnote 9: I don’t have the paper!

Footnote 10: This is an ethical rather than metaphysical discussion.


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This version updated Reading List for this Topic Parent Topic
02/10/2014 17:12:29 None available Thesis - Chapter 00 (Preface)



Summary of Notes Links from this Page

Awaiting Attention (Personal Identity) Endurantism Exdurantism Perdurantism Persistence
Persistence Criteria Status: Thesis Dashboard (2014: July) Survival Thesis - Method & Form Time

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Summary of Note Links to this Page

Status: Thesis Dashboard (2014: September) Thesis - Chapter 01 (Introduction), 2 Thesis - Chapter 04 (Basic Metaphysical Issues) Thesis - Outline  

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