Write-up1 (as at 06/07/2023 00:43:12): Intermittent Objects
- Thesis Text:
- This topic is to be discussed under at least six heads, as follows …
- Artifacts2
- Are the classic cases of possibly intermittent objects, in that many small artefacts can be disassembled and then reassembled, and it is usually thought that the reassembled object is numerically identical to the original.
- But it is not clear whether the watch (say) ceases to exist when disassembled for cleaning, or whether it continues to exist in a scattered3 state. The recipient of a bag of watch-parts would still consider they had received their watch back, even if annoyed at having to reassemble it themselves.
- But, as with all things artifactual, there’s a question whether our intuitions4 are conventional5 and could be otherwise. My gut-feel6, however, is that disassembled artifacts just exist in a disassembled, scattered state, rather than ceasing to exist. Hence, disassembled artifacts are examples of scattered objects7 rather than of intermittent objects.
- I suppose the counterargument might be that artifacts are the things they are for functional reasons, but does a disassembled thing have a function (or, at any rate, the same function it had when assembled)? I imagine we could say that an object might be delivered in kit-form, and then assembled, and it is probably arbitrary (or can be stipulated) whether the kit is of the same kind as the object or not.
- The Write-up8 of "Carter (William) - Artifacts of Theseus: Fact and Fission" will cover all this in more detail.
Persons9
When it comes to Persons, it’s the possession of certain capacities, not the present exercise of them, that qualifies an individual as a person.
David Wiggins holds the view that a person is one who belongs to a kind whose typical members possess some open-ended list of properties.
In that case, a foetus or someone in a PVS10 would still be a person. They would not “intermit” while in that state.
However, on a “present capacity” view, they would not qualify as persons in such a state, and a person might have intermittent existence. For instance, if I were to fall into, and then recover from, a PVS I would not be a person when in the PVS, but would on recovery again be a person, and (importantly) the same person.
So, someone like Baker11 might be committed to persons as intermittent objects because she thinks of human persons as ontologically separate from the human animals that constitute them.
However, an animalist like Olson12 would not be so committed. For the animalist, it’s the animal that’s the persisting thing, and the animal persists throughout the PVS.
I’m not sure what Olson’s view is of the ontological status of persons (I don’t think he considers them a kind); they are just individuals of another kind (most notably human animals) with special, maybe temporary, properties.
Phase Sortals13
My view is that human persons are phase14 sortals15 of human animals.
So, I side with Olson against Baker in the controversy about what Persons are.
While persons are ontologically significant, this does not bring into being a new kind – namely ‘PERSON’ but raises the status of the kind whose typical members are persons (and of the individuals who are persons, of course).
So, I do not think that persons – at least persons falling under the kind HUMAN ANIMAL – can have intermittent existence. A fetus or a human animal in a PVS remains the same human animal.
Constitution16
I’ve not yet discussed intermittent objects under either this head17, or that of Baker’s Constitution View18, but will do, eventually.
The possibility of intermittent objects is covered in passing in two overlapping and incomplete reviews of "Fine (Kit) - The Non-Identity of a Material Thing and Its Matter": a Write-up19 and an Essay20.
The possibility is also raised in my discussion21 of "Markosian (Ned) - Three Problems for Olson's Account of Personal Identity" which – while ostensibly addressed to Olson – also discusses the Constitution View.
Scattered Objects22
The topic of physical continuity23 addresses – amongst much else – both scattered objects24 and intermittent objects, the former intermitting in space, the latter in time (and maybe in space as well).
So, if persons are things constituted by other things, then the person intermits during a PVS, but there is no physical discontinuity.
But, as Baker believes, the very same person can be constituted by different bodies at different times, then there must necessarily be persistence in the absence of spatio-temporal continuity, which it usually taken as a necessary, if not sufficient, condition for persistence.
This leads on to our next topic.
Resurrection25
The possibility of Resurrection26 is the main reason for my interest in intermittent objects.
Clearly, if we are to claim that the very same individual who died is resurrected somewhere else (maybe not a place as such, though it is difficult to envisage bodies that are not at places) at some other time (or not in time – but similar worries apply) then we have an intermittent object.
This process (or fiat) would also seem to involve some sort of metamorphosis27, though maybe the Constitution View does not worry about such things, as it is the constituted person that persists, not the constituting body.
Further Remarks:
- I allude to the possibility of intermittent existence in these Notes:-
- Artifacts28,
- Persons29,
- Phase Sortals30,
- Constitution31,
- Scattered Objects32,
- Resurrection33.
References
- Relevant Works cited above:
- "Carter (William) - Artifacts of Theseus: Fact and Fission", 1983, Write-Up Note34, Internal PDF Link, Read
- "Fine (Kit) - The Non-Identity of a Material Thing and Its Matter", 2003, Write-Up Note35, Annotations, Internal PDF Link, Read
- "Markosian (Ned) - Three Problems for Olson's Account of Personal Identity", 2008, Write-Up Note36, Annotations, Internal PDF Link, Read
- For a Page of Links37 to this Note, Click here.
- Works on this topic that I’ve actually read38, include the following:-
- Aeon:
- "Aeon - Video - The return of the takhi", 2023, External Link
- "The Week, Rufford (Nick) - Could the woolly mammoth be brought back from the dead?", 2022, External Link
- General:
- "Ayers (Michael R.) - Locke on 'Masses of Matter'", 1991, Annotations
- "Carter (William) - Artifacts of Theseus: Fact and Fission", 1983, Write-Up Note39, Internal PDF Link
- "Cooper (John) - Body, Soul and Life Everlasting: Preface to the Second Printing", 1989
- "Fine (Kit) - The Non-Identity of a Material Thing and Its Matter", 2003, Write-Up Note40, Annotations, Internal PDF Link
- "Hazlett (Allan) - Disassembly and Destruction", 2006, Annotations, Internal PDF Link
- "Johnston (Mark) - Human Beings", 1987, Write-Up Note41, Annotations, Internal PDF Link
- "Markosian (Ned) - Three Problems for Olson's Account of Personal Identity", 2008, Write-Up Note42, Annotations, Internal PDF Link
- "Shoemaker (David) - Personal Identity and Immortality", 2009
- "Wiggins (David) - On Being in the Same Place at the Same Time", 1968, Annotations, External Link, Internal PDF Link
- A further reading list might start with:-
- General:
- "Beck (Simon) - Let's Exist Again (Like We Did Last Summer)", 2001, Internal PDF Link
- "Corcoran (Kevin) - Dualism, Materialism and the Problem of Post Mortem Survival", 2009, Internal PDF Link, Read = 17%
- "Dau (Paulo) - Part-Time Objects", 1986, No Abstract
- "Hershenov (David) - The Metaphysical Problem of Intermittent Existence and the Possibility of Resurrection", 2003, External Link, Internal PDF Link, Read = 5%
- "Johnston (Mark) - Is Heaven a Place We Can Get To?", 2010, Read = 78%
- "Lowe (E.J.) - Identity Over Time and Change Of Composition", 2002
- "Merricks (Trenton) - There Are No Criteria For Identity Over Time", 1998, Internal PDF Link
- "Oderberg (David) - Fission, Intermittence and the Primitiveness of Identity", 1993
- "Patton (Michael F.) - Full-Time Objections to Part-Time Objects", 1991
- "Simons (Peter) - Temporary Parts and Intermittent Existence", 1987
- For a list of Works that have been considered, but have missed the cut for inclusion in this Section of my Thesis, see the following:-
- Read: No items to list.
- Further Reading: No items to list.
In-Page Footnotes
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